“I ground myself and reinvent how I work for every different job. One thing that comes back to me is taking attention off myself. You will always have some idea of how a scene will shake down, but that’s often just taken from the text. It’s so much more interesting to diverge from that.”
-Ebon Moss-Bachrach, episode 376 of Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
To celebrate the fourth season of The Bear, we return to our conversation with Emmy-winning actor Ebon Moss-Bachrach.
At the top, we dive into the making of the hit series (9:22), his unforgettable collaboration with Jeremy Allen White (11:20), and how Moss-Bachrach manages to keep adding layers to his portrayal of Cousin Richie (14:26). Then, he describes the mounting pressures around this new season (19:23), the day he knew he wanted to be an actor (27:35), and his work through the years with actor Jon Bernthal (30:26).
On the back-half, Ebon reflects on a formative role as a jazz musician in Warren Leight’s play Side Man (35:34), his ideas about success and living a more balanced life (38:19), his experience playing Desi in Girls (43:33), a philosophy depicted in The Bear (47:35), and the art he hopes to continue making in years to come (50:38).
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Show-notes:
- Watch the new season of The Bear on Hulu.
- See him in The Fantastic Four: First Steps on July 25th.
- Stream Ebon’s past work in Girls, The Punisher, No Hard Feelings, and The Dropout.
- Follow Ebon on Instagram.
- For more, hear our talks with Jon Bernthal, Pedro Pascal, and Quinta Brunson.
- Order your Talk Easy mug in cream and navy or our vinyl record with Fran Lebowitz.
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Original illustration by Krishna Shenoi.
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