When I was starting out as an actor, I wish I had been exposed to things that had suited my tastes more. I didn’t understand that what I thought was beautiful as a child was totally available for me to emulate. Madeline Kahn, Carol Burnett, Amy Irving was a huge one. Lena Horne on Sesame Street, Crystal Gayle, Bette Midler. There were so many—not in the MTV style of what they wanted women to be like. That created contortion in me for a while. You are not required to bare your teeth at your own image.

-Jenny Slate, episode 409 of Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Jenny Slate returns today for her fourth appearance on the program.

We discuss how this role in the new FX series Dying for Sex offered Slate ‘full wingspan’ as a performer (5:45), embodying best friend and caretaker of Molly, played by Michelle Williams (9:25), and what she extracted from herself to play a confrontational character (12:30). Then, Jenny describes her relationship to motherhood (17:30), a breaking point while making her 2019 film The Sunlit Night (22:32), and a timeless passage from her first story collection Little Weirds (28:56).

On the back-half, we unpack Jenny’s journey to healing from social media (33:11), a token of advice from her father, poet Ron Slate (41:48), and to continue our tradition—Slate’s personal and creative aspirations for the years to come (43:51). To close, a reading from Shakespeare’s The Tempest (51:57).

Thoughts or future guest ideas? Email us at mail@talkeasypod.com.

Show-notes:

Illustrations by Krishna ShenoiReference photograph by Chloe Horseman.

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