“As performers, as actors, we want to be looked at—but we don’t really want to be seen. It certainly feels like the culmination of something that’s happened to me for the last ten years now. I started acting because I was so used to code-switching growing up. The person that’s present in the room is who you think they want. But the person who’s absent in that is yourself. So, Bait was kind of taking off the mask for me.”
-Riz Ahmed, episode 452 of Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
For the better part of two decades, Emmy and Oscar-winning actor Riz Ahmed has moved seamlessly between worlds: indies, blockbusters, prestige TV, writing, rapping.
We discuss the long road to his new TV series Bait (3:45), what the character of James Bond symbolizes (6:00), and how the show connects to his own 80s upbringing in Wembley, England (18:40). Then, Riz describes how code-switching (inadvertently) led to acting (22:00), the childhood films he first made in his mind (26:25), the piece of advice from Idris Elba that changed his course (38:30), and how he broke out in Hollywood starring opposite Jake Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler (40:50).
On the back-half, Riz talks performing on stage with classmate (now Zeteo journalist) Mehdi Hasan (44:20), a frenetic audition for Slumdog Millionaire (45:28), nightmares from The Night Of (49:25), his upcoming project opposite Tom Cruise (53:45), the Swet Shop Boys’ hit song “Half Moghul Half Mowgli” (1:00:45), how life imitated art while shooting Relay (1:09:05), and the challenge—and freedom—of representing himself, anew, in Bait (1:13:20).
Clips from Bait courtesy of Prime Video.
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Show-notes:
- Watch Bait on Prime Video.
- See Hamlet in theaters.
- Follow Riz Ahmed on Instagram.
- For more, hear our talks with Viola Davis, Ramy Youssef, and Kate Winslet.
- Order your Talk Easy mug in cream and navy or our vinyl record with Fran Lebowitz.
Illustrations by Krishna Shenoi. Reference photograph by Julius Chiu.
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